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Yoon Suk Yeol in January 2022
Yoon Suk Yeol

Glossary

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  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
  • Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage.
  • The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death.

All articles linked in the ITN template must pass our standards of review. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality.

Nomination steps

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  • Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually – a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC).
  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

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Headers

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  • When the article is ready, updated and there is consensus to post, you can mark the item as (Ready). Remove that wording if you feel the article fails any of these necessary criteria.
  • Admins should always separately verify whether these criteria are met before posting blurbs marked (Ready). For more guidance, check WP:ITN/A.
    • If satisfied, change the header to (Posted).
    • Where there is no consensus, or the article's quality remains poor, change the header to (Closed) or (Not posted).
    • Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled).

Voicing an opinion on an item

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Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.

Please do...

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  1. Pick an older item to review near the bottom of this page, before the eligibility runs out and the item scrolls off the page and gets abandoned in the archive, unused and forgotten.
  2. Review an item even if it has already been reviewed by another user. You may be the first to spot a problem, or the first to confirm that an identified problem was fixed. Piling on the list of "support!" votes will help administrators see what is ready to be posted on the Main Page.
  3. Tell about problems in articles if you see them. Be bold and fix them yourself if you know how, or tell others if it's not possible.

Please do not...

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  1. Add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are not helpful. A vote without reasoning means little for us, please elaborate yourself.
  2. Oppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. We post a lot of such content, so these comments are generally unproductive.
  3. Accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). We at ITN do not handle conflicts of interest.
  4. Comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).
  5. Oppose a recurring item here because you disagree with the recurring items criteria. Discuss them here.
  6. Use ITN as a forum for your own political or personal beliefs. Such comments are irrelevant to the outcome and are potentially disruptive.

Suggesting updates

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There are two places where you can request corrections to posted items:

  • Anything that does not change the intent of the blurb (spelling, grammar, markup issues, updating death tolls etc.) should be discussed at WP:Errors.
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Archives of posted stories: Wikipedia:In the news/Posted/Archives

Sections

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This page contains a section for each day and a sub-section for each nomination. To see the size and title of each section, please expand the following section size summary.


January 16

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New Glenn launch

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Article: New Glenn (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Blue Origin's New Glenn rocket successfully reaches orbit on its inaugural launch. (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Surprised it hasn't been nominated since I think inaugural launches of notable rockets are ITNR. Notable that it is the first methalox rocket to reach orbit (SpaceX's bigger Starship has only technically done sub-orbital flights), and its payload capacity is only passed by the few Super heavy-lift launch vehicles109.166.233.124 (talk) 19:14, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@109.166.233.124 Please create a correctly formatted nomination, and if possible an account. SpectralIon 19:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SpectralIon: I took care of fixing the nom. The Kip (contribs) 19:20, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@The Kip Alright, then I would say Support on Notability since this is the first launch of an advanced rocket, and it reached orbit as well. --SpectralIon 19:23, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle, weak support on quality. This rocket actually worked and its (test) payload was successfully deployed into orbit. The booster was lost on descent, but that's a failure of reusability not of the launch. However, there's only 80 words of update in the article. Don't we normally have a separate article for notable launches, rather than just a section in the article about the rocket? Technically this does meet our minimum requirements, but I would prefer to see more details in the article and fixed cn tags. Modest Genius talk 19:47, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment and support on notability. There isn't even a separate article on the flight/ test itself (I know I know, I could have created it myself, but I'm feeling kinda discouraged from everything this week). The notability is there though. --Ouro (blah blah) 19:52, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per above. Quality is adequate The Kip (contribs) 19:59, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment should be noted that the first stage failed to land on its drone ship and was lost during descent, but other than that soft support as it is an inaugural launch, but the article needs some work. Scuba 19:58, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - a huge advance given how large this rocket is, and particularly the payload volume. Of particular note with this (first) launch is that it is orbital - something that Starship is yet to achieve. Only SLS can currently put a larger payload into orbit.(Falcon Heavy is relatively similar on mass, but is severely constrained on payload volume in comparison. Nfitz (talk) 21:41, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD/Blurb: David Lynch

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Article: David Lynch (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  American filmmaker David Lynch dies at the age of 78. (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Jon698 (talk) 18:32, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Lynch is the type of person that comes to mind a likely to have a blurb as a major figure in filmmaking, but the doesn't not have legacy section or equivalent, yet, to support this. If that was added I'd support a urb on all other quality aspects (which appear close) Masem (t) 18:35, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb The death of a film-maker with "the most important film-maker of the current era" in his lede deserves a blurb on the main page. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 18:36, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I added a blurb. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 19:01, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Article is in excellent shape Chaiten1 (talk) 18:46, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD and oppose blurb - dont see the breadth and depth of coverage as meriting a blurb. nableezy - 19:28, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb was one of the more famous filmmakers of the modern era. Scuba 19:59, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb. Top of the field. One criterion for blurb is the existence of works about person. There is film David Lynch: The Art Life. Has Academy Award, won at Cannes. BilboBeggins (talk) 20:02, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb - large impact on filmmaking. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 20:51, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Can we somehow put featured list of his Awards in the blurb? Saying that he received honorary Oscar, for instance. BilboBeggins (talk) 21:46, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Bob Uecker

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Article: Bob Uecker (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 15:57, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

January 15

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RD: Jafar Masood Hasani Nadwi

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Article: Jafar Masood Hasani Nadwi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ETV Urdu, The Observer Post
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

An Indian Islamic scholar, writer, and the secretary of Nadwatul Ulama at the time of his death. Khaatir (talk) 09:34, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Stephanie Aeffner

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Article: Stephanie Aeffner (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Spiegel Zeit
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German Member of Parliament TNM101 (chat) 07:34, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Diane Langton

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Article: Diane Langton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: English actress, singer and dancer – Meena23:39, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Linda Nolan

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Article: Linda Nolan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Irish singer and television personality – Meena23:39, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jack Hoffman

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Article: Jack Hoffman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Omaha World-Herald, ESPN
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article is in good shape. –DMartin 23:41, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Israel-Hamas ceasefire

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Article: Three-phase Israel–Hamas war ceasefire proposal (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A ceasefire agreement is reached to halt the Israel–Hamas war (Post)
Alternative blurb: Israel and Hamas agree to a three-phase ceasefire proposal to end their 15 months of conflict.
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

 Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ) 17:02, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong support on notability About time. Departure– (talk) 17:02, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'll also add oppose on quality for now - article is insufficiently updated as it stands (given the news broke minutes ago). Departure– (talk) 17:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Added altblurb. Departure– (talk) 17:08, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Departure– are you sure this agreement is to "end" the war or merely to "halt" it? VR (Please ping on reply) 17:15, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It won't end the war necessarily, but it'll end the 15 months of conflict (since 7 October, anyway). Departure– (talk) 17:16, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Right, so the word "end" might not be appropriate.VR (Please ping on reply) 18:22, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support on article quality, support on notability - A ceasefire agreement in what is probably the largest current geopolitical conflict currently ongoing is important stuff. Quality seems OK, just needs to be updated. Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 17:05, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I believe you've mixed up your votes, @Wildfireupdateman Zanahary 18:02, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oops Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 18:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
changed :) Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 18:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support on notability, noting that yet another article was created at 2025 Israel–Hamas ceasefire, meaning a merge should definitely be considered. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 17:35, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait Cannot jump the gun here, the article as of now begins with "is a proposed" i.e. not official and not announced by either party. A prisoner exchange is apparently official but the significance lies in the broader ceasefire agreement not the exchange itself. We can and should wait till this is official. Gotitbro (talk) 17:55, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, but if nothing changes for one hour promote this quickly. JayCubby 18:02, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait - We aren't a news ticker. No need to keep trying to throw breaking news up on the main page as fast as possible. We should be waiting for more developments to come out. mike_gigs talkcontribs 18:32, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    .....this is a section called In The News PrecariousWorlds (talk) 19:57, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    For featuring quality articles that happen to be in the news, not to perform the functions of a newspaper. Quality can't be there until more terms of the ceasefire are known. Masem (t) 20:07, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    And now it looks like Israel and Hamas are quarreling over the final details of the ceasefire, holding up its approval. ITN is here to highlight quality articles about current events. No article can be of main page quality if it’s an hour old - and people saying things like “post this breaking story to the main page immediately” don’t seem to understand that. mike_gigs talkcontribs 11:58, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose declaring a ceasefire and holding a successful ceasefire are two very different things; they can announce a ceasefire multiple times in various ways and combinations and agree on anything they like, but it will be meaningless until the ceasefire agreement actually results in one; given how few ceasefires hold and how volatile this particular situation is, this isn't much more than pure politics at the moment. Abcmaxx (talk) 19:23, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:CRYSTAL. We can’t presume ourselves that the ceasefire will or won’t hold. The Kip (contribs) 19:32, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I do think there's a case for waiting until the ceasefire enters into effect. Modest Genius talk 19:36, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Modest Genius I fully agree, hence why I struck my initial vote and changed to Wait - I’m just saying that I think it’s CRYSTAL to oppose posting it because it might not hold once in effect. The Kip (contribs) 20:47, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed. Modest Genius talk 20:52, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait, then support upon confirmation of the agreement by Israel If signed by both sides, this is monumental. Responding to Abcmaxx, only the signing of an agreement itself, not it celebrating its future hypothetical six month or one year anniversary, is the type of thing we can post at ITN. We don't post anniversaries. This ceasefire agreement is also the first time Israel has acceded to a mass release of Palestinian prisoners and the first time they have agreed to a path towards a permanent end to the current war. That is extremely notable, even if it ends up dissolving after a few weeks. WP:CRYSTAL also applies here - political theorizations that this is doomed to fail because within x y or z number of days do not negate notability. FlipandFlopped 19:39, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I understand the WP:CRYSTAL arguments however politicians promise lots of things all the time but very rarely deliver. We should have some proof that this ceasefire agreement is actually meaningful in some other way than some grand words and crossed fingers. Abcmaxx (talk) 19:51, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Grand words and crossed fingers are what goes in ITN. doesn't matter if somehow it fails.
    See, the reason we nominate this for ITN because it is breaking news. Not because its a landmark, commitment to peace, etc. ☢️SCR@TCH!NGH3@D (talk) 08:45, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait/Support for the deal going into effect. DarkSide830 (talk) 19:49, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support notable and major event
QalasQalas (talk) 20:21, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait per Angusgtw, and also per article quality. I'd only heard of this a few minutes ago and when I went to read the article it was not satisfactory to sate my curiosity about the actual agreement that happened on 15 January. /home/gracen/ (they/them) 16:11, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait Notable, but it's not 100% confirmed yet (Israeli cabinet needs to agree). Bremps... 18:37, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Yoon Suk Yeol arrest

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Article: Arrest of Yoon Suk Yeol (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ South Korean president Yoon Seok Yeol is arrested after his declaration of martial law. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ South Korean president Yoon Seok Yeol is arrested in a standoff involving over 3000 police officers.
News source(s): https://www.chosun.com/national/court_law/2025/01/15/YE7U73ANOJEUFPXBYEFD72XO5U/
Credits:

Nominator's comments: First time in South Korean history a president got arrested, or even received an arrest warrant. Ca talk to me! 01:53, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support on notability Article quality seems sufficient for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 02:20, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support as his arrest is the first of a sitting (albeit suspended) president in South Korean history. This event is noteworthy enough in its own right, independent of his impeachment in December (which has already happened twice before) Prince Of Iso (talk) 04:08, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Unlike Impeachment of prime minister Han Duck-soo, this is direct consequence of the Martial Law declaration. He would not have been arrested if he attended any summons he received, but if he were the kind of person to attend the summon, then he wouldn't have declared the Martial Law. Didgogns (talk) 04:39, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support We posted the arrest of Trump, I can't see how this is fundamentally different from that. Also to be noted here are the multiple attempts to evade arrest by Yoon, including with the help of his presidential guard. Gotitbro (talk) 06:06, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Yoon has already been impeached, the arrest a formality in completing the process. Trump has not been convicted, but it was being indicted that was the story, the necessary arrest and booking a part of that. Effectively, this is like posting an inauguration after we already posted the election results; its part of the process and not the newsworthy part of the process. Masem (t) 13:42, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- a sitting head of government being arrested should always satisfy ITN criteria, in my opinion. --RockstoneSend me a message! 06:17, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per Trump precedent This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 06:21, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for multiple reasons. Firstly, he wasn't actually arrested, but voluntarily handed himself over. Secondly, he's been already impeached for the illegal declaration of martial law, so the arrest warrant was a highly anticipated logical consequence. Thirdly, he's no longer sitting president as he was impeached a month ago. Fourthly, posting Trump's arrest was a mistake, and I don't think it should be used as a precedent. We don't really need to post every single development in the story. Let's wait to see if he gets convicted, and then we can post it as a conclusion.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:22, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Firstly, he wasn't actually arrested, but voluntarily handed himself over. In common English usage, "arrest" means "a detention during which one is not legally free to stroll out the door at any time one chooses"—it has nothing to do with whether one walks into a law enforcement office and surrenders to law enforcement vs being tackled while on the run by half a dozen officers and cuffed and shackled while helicopters circle overhead. It is quite common in "non-violent crimes" (like financial "white-collar crimes") for law enforcement to communicate back and forth with a suspect's legal counsel and mutually agree upon a time/place for the suspect to present themselves for arrest, vs smashing the door down at 1 AM. --Slowking Man (talk) 16:26, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support A major event of the Korean crisis. ArionStar (talk) 08:35, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per above, still important. Sahaib (talk) 10:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Culmination of a two-week standoff where Yoon has been using his presidential security and supporters to resist arrest. Describing this as "voluntary" is disingenuous, since Yoon himself said that he "voluntarily" decided to surrender after watching a 3,000 strong police contingent dismantle the barricades his security team put up and use ladders to infiltrate the compound, and insisted that the whole thing was unconstitutional. Also, it's very big worldwide news, and a historic first for a sitting president in the country. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 12:40, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    He's no longer a sitting president after his impeachment, so your last sentence is factually incorrect.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 13:17, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Kind of. He can still return to power depending on the Constitutional Court decision. Ca talk to me! 13:42, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    He still holds the office, he just has essentially zero power unless the Constitutional Court ruling rules in his favour. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:06, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support altblurb 2 - not just the arrest. The standoff at Yoon Suk Yeol's residence is much of the story, not his ultimate arrest. A president of a major nation having a 13-day standoff with law enforcement of his own country to me seems extremely ITN-worthy. Departure– (talk) 15:06, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Sitting head of government arrested" seems notable enough, and is something "in the news" internationally. Suggest modification on altblurb: "South Korean president Yoon Suk Yeol is arrested following a 13-day standoff." Keep it pithy, if people want more details that's what the links are for.
Note on linking: the prez bio article is currently titled Yoon Suk Yeol. Main Page links should reflect WP-canonical Romanization, so make sure to change that presuming the title is the "right" one. --Slowking Man (talk) 16:26, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - very notable, sitting president arrested
Wildfireupdateman :) (talk) 16:29, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

January 14

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RD: Furio Colombo

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Article: Furio Colombo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Il Messaggero Notizie
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Italian journalist and politician. Article is a bit short but I believe enough for RD. Can't comment on the sources used TNM101 (chat) 14:38, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Heinz Kluetmeier

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Article: Heinz Kluetmeier (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Athletic
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German-born American photographer noted for the Sports Illustrated cover of the Miracle on Icerawmustard (talk) 03:22, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Tony Slattery

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Article: Tony Slattery (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: British comedian, best known for being on the original uk Whose Line is it Anyway?. Several unsourced and cn tags on article. Masem (t) 16:14, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Simon Townsend

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Article: Simon Townsend (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-01-15/simon-townsend-has-died-journalist-tv-presenter/104818750
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian journalist, and conscientious objector during the Vietnam War, who spent time in prison, then later became host of a very popular childrens TV show, Simon Townsend's Wonder WorldHiLo48 (talk) 22:12, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Elgar Howarth

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Article: Elgar Howarth (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Telegraph
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Versatile English trumpeter, composer and conductor, who conducted many world premieres, including Ligeti's Le Grand Macabre and four operas by Harrison Birtwistle, and who played trumpet fanfares for The Beatles. The article was already quite developed and sourced. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Walter Deutsch

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Article: Walter Deutsch (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Österreichisches Volksliedwerk
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Austrian musicologist focused on folk music, leading a university institute in Vienna from 1965 to 1993 and making folk music popular on radio and television from 1967, collecting material for both purposes. He was 101. - The article and the references were there but not yet connected ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Niel Barnard

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Article: Niel Barnard (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): News24 IOL
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: South African intelligence chief. Article is of good length TNM101 (chat) 15:42, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Tony Book

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Article: Tony Book (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jan/14/tony-book-manchester-city-dies-aged-90
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 03:53, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

(Posted) Lebanese prime minister

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Article: Nawaf Salam (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Nawaf Salam is chosen to be the next prime minister of Lebanon (Post)
Alternative blurb: Joseph Aoun (pictured) is elected president of Lebanon and names Nawaf Salam prime minister
News source(s): CNN
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Lebanon's Prime Minister is the ITNR position for the country (administers the executive in the country), so discussions shouldn't focus on notability but only article quality. However, I think this should probably be merged with the current blurb about the new president, since those two events are very related, unless people have objections to that. DecafPotato (talk) 21:08, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, then Support per above Ion.want.uu (talk) 21:53, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support merge with president blurb into something like "Joseph Aoun (pictured) is elected president of Lebanon and names Nawaf Salam prime minister". This is important enough for ITN because it is a surprise reformist prime minister naming that angers Hezbollah (Reuters, Al Jazeera, France 24). Tradediatalk 21:55, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: Both the article Nawaf Salam and prime minister of Lebanon need to better sourced, and have inline citations. Multiple CN tags. Support merging --ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 06:49, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I added altblurb that does not link to any new article (but just augments the blurb we already have) in case the new articles are not ready in terms of quality, we can just modify the old blurb as we wait for quality to improve. Tradediatalk 12:34, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support merged blurb, but comment Just easiest to add Salam as PM to existing blurb without worring about quality of Salam's article, however, I do note that that leaves the current featured article about the election absent any discussion of the PM selection (Aoun's article and Salam's article of course have it). I don't think that that lack is a bad thing (this election is very much its own version of an IAR situations) so it should be okay to just amend without haven't any adjustment to the featured article. Masem (t) 13:05, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support merge @SpectralIon @Ion.want.uu @ExclusiveEditor I have resolved the citation issues. Prodrummer619 (talk) 13:56, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Prodrummer619: There are still few CN tags. If your didn't find a source for them, then we can remove those statements and move forward. ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 14:22, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ExclusiveEditor Woops. It Should've been done in a second edit but it didn't go though due to an error. Can you check now Prodrummer619 (talk) 14:30, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Looks fine now, I've changed to support. ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 14:49, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Oliviero Toscani

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Article: Oliviero Toscani (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
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Nominator's comments: Famous photographer EvergreenFir (talk) 19:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Could be expanded from Italian with sources, would be very good candidate then for sure. --ExclusiveEditor Notify Me! 06:51, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 Prayag Kumbh Mela

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Article: 2025 Prayag Kumbh Mela (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Maha Kumbh Mela, a major Hindu festival, begins in Prayagraj, India (Post)
News source(s): Guardian
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Nominator's comments: Beginning of a once-in-144 years festival (the Kumbh Mela occurs every 12 years, with a larger Maha iteration each 144 years). The Guardian expects more than 400 million people to attend this year’s festivities. C-class article exists but could be improved. LukeSurl t c 11:41, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

With Hinduism time cycles being infinitely fractal or almost is there a Super Maha Kumbh Mela every 12^3 yrs? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 14:10, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The article has now been copyedited. ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 15:36, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I have added a tag to the article, since it contains words like "mystical" and "sophisticated" TNM101 (chat) 17:33, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support - but I have also raised a query on the talk page, about this '144 years' claim. GenevieveDEon (talk) 17:38, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Jupiter's orbit is more precisely 4,332.59d (assuming sidereal like their astrology not tropical) so seems like it should be 143 about 34.7% of the time else 142 but I don't know how it's scheduled i.e. is it always the same season? Sidereal yr or tropical? Is starting ~Full Moon ending ~last crescent or ~New Moon coincidence or lunar/lunisolar calendar? (12x4332.59 (~11.862yr) is ~146.715 pure (nonlunisolar) lunar yrs so that's not where 144 comes from) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 18:52, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at the talk page, you will see the specific queries I'm raising. Basically it amounts to (1) wasn't the 2013 Prayag Kumbh Mela described at the time as a Maha Kumbh Mela? (2) is there anything in sources about the 1882 (eg 143 years ago) Prayag Kumbh Mela to show that it was distinctive in the way that the current one is claimed to be? GenevieveDEon (talk) 19:00, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Reading news reporting, it seems like the event’s size and significance arguably owes more to 21st century Indian sociopolitical trends rather than ancient calendar cycles. This can be discussed in the article - the blurb is deliberately simple. Regardless, this is a very large event that is in the news. LukeSurl t c 23:13, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@LukeSurl: I consider the blurb not 'deliberately' simple, but uneditorialised. Notre Dam's opening did not cover the recent right's rise in Europe. This example is not to draw analogy, but to connect. Given Guardian is British agency, they consider clubbing a lot of things related to a single event within an article when it comes to foreign news, especially Indian religions and the corresponding politics involved with it at a broader scale. Not a mistake but sure editorialising, although I agree the 'sociopolitical trends' sure are a reason for its wider scale this year. The 144 years is an estimate of Indian astrological calculations, and is relevant only because it feels 'good' to say that to exgravate the event. Kumbh Mela has always been a large celebration, even the last 'big' KM they did in 2013 was called 'Maha' KM. ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 06:18, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • On this Day is the main page section that usually handles religious festivals and other calendar events, not ITN. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:21, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It is not a festival, and is not per the Gregorian calendar. This one doesn't happen every year, once in 12 years. Last it happened in 2013. --ExclusiveEditor (talk) 08:28, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The proposed blurb says it's "a major Hindu festival". And the timing seems complex and variable – the main article says that the biggest attendance was on 4 February 2019. As it's a long festival and the crowding tends to generate incidents, like the Moslem pilgrimmages to Mecca, perhaps ITN should wait until we have something specific to report. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:41, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    As for what I've found on internet, Kumbh Mela was historically used to be a generic word to refer to local pilgrimage/religious gatherings happening in multiple city, but today only refers to the four major such gatherings, happening every few years in four Indian cities (2019 was one of its smaller variations (half Kumbh mela), although 2025 is expected to outdo it). The biggest and most notable of these four is the one happening in Prayagraj known as Prayag Kumbh Mela which happens once every 12 years. It's not a festival in traditional sense (like the ones there are holidays for), it is not celebrated across India in every city in general, but rather confined to that city where outside people pilgrimage to participate in. It has attained the title of 'festival' in recent centuries, although it might not be one. What makes it notable is not that it is celebrated by hundreds of millions of people across India, but that hundreds of millions from across the country visit the city to participate in it. It is an 'event' which has fixed starting and ending dates, and for 2025 PKM it is 13 January to 26 February 2025. ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 11:12, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Billions of people have recently celebrated Christmas and the New Year in various ways. Those events were in the news too but we need something more for ITN. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:42, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Christmas and New Year comes every Year, Kumbh Mela (the main one) doesn't. It comes every 12 years, which is the point of putting it on ITN. ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 13:00, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's equivocation here around the word 'festival', which is both used to mean 'recurrent religious or cultural date of celebration' and 'mass gathering in celebration'. The Kumbh Mela is both of those things. It doesn't take place only on a single day, so I'm not sure OTD is appropriate; what is significant here is the reported scale and alleged rarity of this event. I'm entirely satisfied that the scale is as big as has been claimed; I am, however, dubious about the rarity, as I have said elsewhere. That this celebration is not governed by the Gregorian calendar would be no obstacle to putting it in OTD: we regularly list events from the Julian, Hebrew, Islamic, and other calendars there. As to the frequency aside from the 144-year issue, it seems apparent: (1) that there are four sites at which events of this sort take place, and that each site is on its own twelve-year cycle (2) that the celebrations are staggered, so that a cycle starts at one of the four sites every three years (3) that some sites hold an Ardh Kumbh Mela - that is, a halfway event - at the six-year point of their respective twelve-year cycles (4) that this one, the Prayag Kumbh Mela, is of high prestige, possibly the highest among the four. Certainly it is the ones 12 and 24 years ago that I recall last getting this much coverage abroad. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:11, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on notability, may be considered an ITNR, happening every 12 years. Support for 12 years notability, and if that's not enough then its better on 'On this Day' as suggested by Andrew above. --ExclusiveEditor Notify Me! 13:11, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    As noted above, we'd normally use OTD for such things, so the "regular" event that happens every ~12 years doesn't need to be an ITN. This one, which does appear to be the maha version, that only happens every ~144 years, is unique and reasonable to call out for an ITN, but its frequency at once-every-144-years doesn't make for a good ITNR. Masem (t) 13:27, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Masem: Different types of KMs happen every 2-4 years in 4 cities of India, on rotational order. Most notable (maybe deserving an ITN) is Maha Kumbh Mela happening in Prayagraj every 12 years. [2019 KM, although also held in Prayagraj, was 'Ardh (meaning halfly, which happens between 2 Maha KMs)']. The once-in-144 year KM is not denoted by 'Maha', that's jus a confusion probably caused by under researched news articles. 2013 KM was also 'Maha', 2001 KM was also 'Maha'... no relation between 144 years and prefix 'Maha'. And for the question if 144 years ago if there was some special KM, I didn't find any source suggesting that any KM from the 1800s was special for this matter, however a considerable thing is that KMs were not that popular back then so official record keeping may have missed it. ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 14:20, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Then we need to have that all clear and resolved because the ITN worthy item is the 144yr event, not the 12 yr one. Sources today seem to claim this one is the special 144 yr one but it's extremely confusing from our articles. — Masem (t) 14:25, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Masem: BBC itself has two contradictory articles. One from 2013 states that MahaKumbh 2013 was the 144 year special one, other published two days ago mentions that this year's MahaKumbh is 144 year special. Maybe no one knows for sure and different people hold different opinions, with this year's claim being the loudest of them all. And I've found that 'Maha' prefix is indeed used for 144 year special KMs, but they are using it every time now, maybe to attract more people. --ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 15:30, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment It would be helpful if the contradiction on the Kumbh Mela page, which claims the 2013 event in Prayagraj was a Maha event as well, could be resolved. I see most sources calling the 2025 event the Maha one, but then you have a the 2013 as being Maha sourced to a gov't document. I know that article is not featured, but given that a large proportion of our readership is not Hindu, I think we need to have clarity fixed there as well and just to make sure we are acknowledgint the 144-year event. Masem (t) 13:31, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now - there are inconsistencies as Masem points out above, and several tags that need work. While notable we should cover it at its conclusion in February when there are much more concrete facts about attendance and the article is not a bunch of WP:CRYSTALBALL material. Schwinnspeed (talk) 16:01, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    We definitely do not want to post the current blurb until there is clarity on whether this is considered a 'Maha' kumbh. There is discussion about it on the talk page that should at minimum be resolved before posting the current blurb. Schwinnspeed (talk) 16:14, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Hindu festivals are not ITN. 2607:FEA8:9DE:67E0:CC70:984F:2BDA:7121 (talk) 21:48, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is no such categorical rule, and frankly, anon, your position looks somewhat prejudicial.
(By the way, 2025 is also a Jubliee Year in the Catholic Church, an event which occurs once every 25 years. This one is also the 1700th anniversary of the First Council of Nicaea. If there's a nice big event relating to that, with lots of appropriate sources, I would vote for it to be included at ITN as well. I regard both of these major events as having potential merit as ITN stories if the pages are up to standard.) GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:08, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The First Council of Nicaea has been regularly run at OTD -- having been posted 10 times so far. This lapsed in 2016 so I've just rescheduled it for this year. The nice thing about OTD is that it has an "anyone can edit" process which makes it easier to get things done. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:46, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OTD is really good option. The only thing which I think still makes posting this on ITN plausible is if this is really an event happening once every 144 years. ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 11:33, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose after reading the above insightful discussion by helpful editors. Also, just because it is rare does not mean it should be ITN material. For example, there was a big celebration in France for the 200 years anniversary of the French revolution, but i don't think we would have blurbed it. Tradediatalk 23:51, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support with 400 million people participating I see no argument as to why this should not be featured. Banedon (talk) 03:56, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Leslie Charleson

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Article: Leslie Charleson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://people.com/leslie-charleson-dead-general-hospital-actress-8605210
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 Regards, SSCG 0:00, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Support This is a notable person who died yesterday. The article about her is reasonably well developed.--Eastview2018 (talk) 14:35, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Eastview2018 with all due respect, this comment reads as if it was written by AI - did you use that? The Kip (contribs) 16:02, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@The Kip Are you talking about the very comment above you? It's too short to determine anything, and looks natural to most part to me. ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 06:58, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ExclusiveEditor The blunt summary of the context + awkward pause in the middle/separation into two sentences reads like AI to me, but that could also just be my own paranoia speaking. The Kip (contribs) 17:20, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: William P. Dixon

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Article: William P. Dixon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Wisconsin State Journal
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Nominator's comments: American lawyer and political strategist. Death announced 12 January. Thriley (talk) 04:30, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, the article is a stub and is too short. Güiseppi669 (talk) 09:18, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Chadian parliamentary election results

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Article: 2024 Chadian parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Chad, the ruling Patriotic Salvation Movement provisionally receives a majority in the National Assembly. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The ruling Patriotic Salvation Movement in Chad receives a majority in the National Assembly.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In Chad, the ruling Patriotic Salvation Movement retains a majority in the National Assembly amidst a boycott by opposition parties.
News source(s): Reuters
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Nominator's comments: Nom per ITN/R. I'm also thinking if the blurb should also mention that opposition parties boycotted the election. Yo.dazo (talk) 19:32, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment It would be bizarre to run this separately from the mysterious attack on the Presidential palace in the same country. People seem to think that the government's statements are not reliable so why would this be any different? My impression is that there's likely to be a connection but we don't have good, reliable sources for any of it. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:28, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    We can't engage in original research and our own conclusions even if they seem obvious. Harizotoh9 (talk) 23:00, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Below, you say that "Chad is not a democracy, and you can't trust anything their government says." Andrew🐉(talk) 00:11, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Am I allowed to oppose based on the absolutely atrocious sandwiching of the lead by the overly-wide electionbox? It's averaging three words per line on my screen. Also, I realize this is on ITN/R, but according to the article this election was boycotted by the opposition and the ruling party, unsurprisingly, won a large majority, so I'm really not sure this is interesting to readers. Toadspike [Talk] 07:51, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Might be a hot take but I don't think blatantly rigged and unfair elections in authoritarian countries should be considered ITN/R, unless the country itself has a massive impact and reach (ala Russian presidential elections). PrecariousWorlds (talk) 19:17, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think that it should be a case by case call, taking into account the level of democracy. For example, The Economist Democracy Index lists 44 Sub-Saharan African countries. Chad is the 2nd worst among them (only better than Central African Republic). Tradediatalk 03:59, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sham elections are still incredibly important for presidential monarchies, and the aftermath around them, I don’t see the logic of excluding them. If anything they tend to be more newsworthy Kowal2701 (talk) 17:06, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support merge with the attack blurb. Any comments on the coverage of sham elections should be discussed elsewhere as it’s ITNR, it’s just article quality that matters. Article is a good length, but a couple missing citations in the Electoral system section. Ideally it’d have an aftermath/reactions section but situation is still developing. Kowal2701 (talk) 16:58, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Yes, this was likely a sham election, but the sentiment expressed by some voters here that we should be picking and choosing and deciding ourselves what elections otherwise falling under ITN/R are fair enough to post is out of line IMO. If it is desired, I think simply saying they were the first elections held since 2011 may suffice enough. DarkSide830 (talk) 19:53, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support altblurb2 as the only blurb that shows this was a sham election. Abcmaxx (talk) 09:50, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support ALT2 I get us not declaring it a sham ourselves, but it's critical to note the opposition boycotted and not give the impression that this was a normally-contested election. The Kip (contribs) 19:28, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2024–25 Croatian presidential election

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Nominator's comments: Nom per ITN/R. Moraljaya67 (talk) 06:02, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose The article looks quite presentable but most of the sources are in the Croatian language and so I've no idea how accurate or reliable they are. To check the blurb, I looked at the BBC report cited by the nomination (but not the article). This says that, "Presidents in Croatia fulfil a largely ceremonial role" and so it seems this is not ITN/R. I've therefore changed the nomination parameter to "no". Andrew🐉(talk) 08:39, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - we do not, and really should not, post changes in the head of state when that office is not also the head of government. --RockstoneSend me a message! 23:16, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This does not seem important enough for ITN after reading about the role of the president of Croatia. Tradediatalk 00:48, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support - Firstly, some of the facts presented here are incorrect. The President of Croatia is not a ceremonial role: the president decides the country's foreign policy, is responsible for all matters of national security, and reviews laws passed by the parliament (this is not a definite right of veto as in the US, but it can be used to block the passage of a law in many situations). The parliament still holds executive power, but it's a far, far cry from the position of European monarchs.
Secondly and apart from ITN/R matters, the outcome was atypical. A landslide victory for the presidential office has happened only once since the establishment of the current two-party system (in 2005 with only 65% in the second round). Usually, both rounds produce a close result between major-party candidates. In addition, the candidate of the party governing the parliament barely mustered 10% of registered voters in each round, which is unprecented.
The article itself needs some improvement -- so far, there is little info other than who ran and how many votes they won, and the election process in general. I'll try to fill in the blanks tomorrow. Daß Wölf 00:34, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've added some detail to the article. Daß Wölf 11:38, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Hasjim Djalal

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Article: Hasjim Djalal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://en.antaranews.com/news/341158/hasjim-djalal-an-architect-of-unclos-passes-away-at-90
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Nominator's comments: Indonesian diplomat. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 16:33, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Article is a stub Thewetroadinsummer (talk) 20:41, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Thewetroadinsummer: Not a stub anymore... Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 23:35, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support: It's bit of a peacock, but once fixed its good to go. ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 07:11, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ExclusiveEditor: I've removed the promotional last paragraph... Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 00:43, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are few more minor problems in the article which I've tagged, whatsoever I continue supporting it with those. ExclusiveEditor 🔔 Ping Me! 11:35, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Claude Jarman Jr.

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Article: Claude Jarman Jr. (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Oscar-winning 1940s child actor. Removed the last "citation needed". --Clibenfoart (talk) 11:12, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know exactly (most of the filmographies here don't have sources), but I've added two sources anyway. --Clibenfoart (talk) 16:31, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Al-Bayda gas station explosion

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Article: Al-Bayda gas station explosion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A gas station explosion in al-Bayda, Yemen results in 15 deaths and 67 injuries (Post)
News source(s): ABC news
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Nominator's comments: Investigations are still ongoing and the article is being updated Abo Yemen 16:09, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Qiu Dahong

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Article: Qiu Dahong (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Dalian Institute of Technology (in Mandarin Chinese)
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Nominator's comments: Could do with an infobox but otherwise article looks well referenced and long enough, although expansion would be welcome. Cannot comment on the quality of the references though as they are all in Chinese. Abcmaxx (talk) 02:08, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Fereydoon Shahbazyan

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Article: Fereydoon Shahbazyan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): IFP News
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Nominator's comments: Article looks comprehensive however sources may need to be checked on quality, however most are in Persian. If that passes then article looks fine otherwise. Abcmaxx (talk) 02:08, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Compositions section needs sourcing, and there are a few dodgy sources nonetheless (such as amazon.com being one of them). Cleanup on that end would be really helpful. Ping once completed. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 12:24, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Félix Mantilla (baseball)

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Article: Félix Mantilla (baseball) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.si.com/mlb/mets/news/original-mets-shortstop-felix-mantilla-passes-away-at-90-logan9
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 Félix Mantilla 03:49, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

RD: Frank Cicutto

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Article: Frank Cicutto (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5]
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Article updated
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 Happily888 (talk) 07:58, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: José Jiménez

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Article: José Jiménez (activist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Happily888 (talk) 07:56, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Milan Feranec

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Article: Milan Feranec (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [7]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Czech politician. History6042😊 (Contact me) 15:25, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Sam Moore

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Article: Sam Moore (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Billboard
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American soul singer-songwriter and half of Sam & Dave240F:7A:6253:1:B49A:4C1F:CA02:FF35 (talk) 07:39, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Shiu Ka-chun

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Article: Shiu Ka-chun (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Standard
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Hong Kong activist and former legislator. One paragraph needs a citation, otherwise the article is fine TNM101 (chat) 07:17, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Inauguration of Nicolas Maduro

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


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Article: 2024 Venezuelan political crisis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Nicolas Maduro (pictured) is inaugurated for a third term as President of Venezuela amidst a political crisis aggravated after the controversial results of the 2024 Venezuelan presidential election. (Post)
News source(s): (CNN)
Credits:
Nominator's comments: A major event of the crisis. ArionStar (talk) 17:45, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Does that include Trump's inauguration? HiLo48 (talk) 00:42, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Of course. I’ll oppose that one as well if it gets nominated.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 00:44, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

January 9

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Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections


(Posted) RD: Otto Schenk

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Article: Otto Schenk (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ORF, NYT
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Austrian actor, and traditional theatre and opera director Grimes2 (talk) 15:11, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Anita Bryant

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Article: Anita Bryant (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 wizzito | say hello! 02:40, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support. No uncited sections. A few potential bits of cruft in the Legacy section, but a generally well-fleshed out article. -insert valid name here- (talk) 03:21, 10 January 2025 (UTC) Oppose for now, per FakeScientist. -insert valid name here- (talk) 17:23, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I have added some CN TAGS in some unsourced lines and paras that might be easy to fix. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:11, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: P. Jayachandran

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Article: P. Jayachandran (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Indian Express
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Pachu Kannan (talk) 03:43, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Article need more sources. Pachu Kannan (talk) 03:43, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2022–2025 Lebanese presidential election

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Article: 2022–2025 Lebanese presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Joseph Aoun (pictured) is elected president of Lebanon after a two-year vacancy (Post)
Alternative blurb II: Joseph Aoun (pictured) is elected president of Lebanon after a two-year presidential vacuum
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

Article updated

 Prodrummer619 (talk) 13:02, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

is there a reason why there have been three different pictures of him used on the front page over the last two days? — jonas (talk) 04:07, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Two pictures. What is the problem with that? Stephen 04:13, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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